kondur_007
07-28 01:04 PM
Sorry to read blaming debates between eb3 and eb2. Insted of blaming, it is better to take some action. Based on current practice by DOS, EB3-I will be like this for ever, unless more number opens up by any legislative changes. As per law, each EB catagories are allowed to have 40K visas. As demand for EB2 is more, (paricularly by In,Ch) one can not expect any flow from EB2 to EB3 . This is law one can not change it.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
This is exactly I have been trying to communicate for a long time.
I said this in my previous posts:
Following is my post from May:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18876
Then I said it again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19058&page=2
Then I said it again and again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=261937#post261937
And I urge again, this is not the "fight between EB2 and EB3" but a reality that something needs to be done for EB3. Although I am not EB3 myself, I have many frieds stuck in EB3, and it is very unfair to them and their families to wait several years in line.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
This is exactly I have been trying to communicate for a long time.
I said this in my previous posts:
Following is my post from May:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18876
Then I said it again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19058&page=2
Then I said it again and again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=261937#post261937
And I urge again, this is not the "fight between EB2 and EB3" but a reality that something needs to be done for EB3. Although I am not EB3 myself, I have many frieds stuck in EB3, and it is very unfair to them and their families to wait several years in line.
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unitednations
08-25 02:03 PM
I agree it is wrong ...but let us look from the employer point of view ...mostly such employers are small companies trying to survive ...they have to balance 2 acts ..get a consultant and then find him a project soon..both are unknowns ..i.e. his consultant may get a h1 and then that person on h1 maybe smart enough to get a project ..it is difficult and these companies do serve a purpose i.e. they give entry in to US for many consultants ..who then jump after getting some experience.
The issue boils down to this:
Companies want to retain the employee as long as they can
consultant wants to leave as fast as they can
company wants to pay the least
consultant wants the most pay
Above four issues can be dealt with.
However; off of a project; company doesn't want to cancel h-1b (their investment, don't want to pay salary because it is cost prohibitive; many consultants want to go % basis as soon as they can and that is very little to pay people who are on bench). company tries to tell consultant to transfer h-1b or go back to home country and wait for new project. Consultant doesn't want to go back (they have their life here; kids going to school; car payments, friends, etc.).
It is a pretty easy solution from a company point of view; we don't pay bench but as soon as you are off project then you gotta go. People will beg and plead not to go; they will then try to transfer h-1b to another company without a job.
A lot of this has to do with person not wanting to leave and do everrything possible to stay.
The issue boils down to this:
Companies want to retain the employee as long as they can
consultant wants to leave as fast as they can
company wants to pay the least
consultant wants the most pay
Above four issues can be dealt with.
However; off of a project; company doesn't want to cancel h-1b (their investment, don't want to pay salary because it is cost prohibitive; many consultants want to go % basis as soon as they can and that is very little to pay people who are on bench). company tries to tell consultant to transfer h-1b or go back to home country and wait for new project. Consultant doesn't want to go back (they have their life here; kids going to school; car payments, friends, etc.).
It is a pretty easy solution from a company point of view; we don't pay bench but as soon as you are off project then you gotta go. People will beg and plead not to go; they will then try to transfer h-1b to another company without a job.
A lot of this has to do with person not wanting to leave and do everrything possible to stay.
miapplicant
10-04 11:30 AM
All,
I just want to share some goods news from side.
All my checks got cashed today. I applied on July 23rd at NSC and got the receipt #'s from WAC.
I hope who ever is waiting for RN's they will get soon.
Thanks,
-rk.
Wow, I was in the same boat as you but we still have not heard anything:( What should we do?
I just want to share some goods news from side.
All my checks got cashed today. I applied on July 23rd at NSC and got the receipt #'s from WAC.
I hope who ever is waiting for RN's they will get soon.
Thanks,
-rk.
Wow, I was in the same boat as you but we still have not heard anything:( What should we do?
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ramus
07-08 07:33 PM
Can you post this on DC thread..
We have so far 46...
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abisen
09-14 06:25 AM
I don't usually comment on such posts and I have seen a lot of people take the side I am about to take. I just think you are being unnecessarily rude. It is these people and their opinions that cause IV to exist as a group. Lets say you are going to lock membership only to people paying a membership fee every month. How big a group are you going to get?
If it is going to be significant, then maybe that's the way IV should go and should just shut down public forums where there are members who can talk and members who have "not bought their right to talk"
I bring up the "monthly membership" issue because I did make donations on multiple occasions (you should probably look up your records and verify). And yet, under the new design, I am not a donor, I do not get access to the exclusive threads that only the privileged monthly members do. So, just like the OP, I am a thankless member who thinks the group is thankless. So, I do not know what initiatives IV has taken, but yet, I linger around the forums because it has so many smart people throwing around ideas, working on theories and just being friendly.
Maybe you should just create a little forum of yours in one corner and put walls around so no one can come in and make suggestions about things you won't tell them about. Does it take that much effort to be nice to someone? Just remember that he is free to tell you what to do irrespective of who he is. What you actually do is upto you. Just be nice for a change, it will make you get a whole new perspective on life!
I completely share your opinion.
If it is going to be significant, then maybe that's the way IV should go and should just shut down public forums where there are members who can talk and members who have "not bought their right to talk"
I bring up the "monthly membership" issue because I did make donations on multiple occasions (you should probably look up your records and verify). And yet, under the new design, I am not a donor, I do not get access to the exclusive threads that only the privileged monthly members do. So, just like the OP, I am a thankless member who thinks the group is thankless. So, I do not know what initiatives IV has taken, but yet, I linger around the forums because it has so many smart people throwing around ideas, working on theories and just being friendly.
Maybe you should just create a little forum of yours in one corner and put walls around so no one can come in and make suggestions about things you won't tell them about. Does it take that much effort to be nice to someone? Just remember that he is free to tell you what to do irrespective of who he is. What you actually do is upto you. Just be nice for a change, it will make you get a whole new perspective on life!
I completely share your opinion.
vinabath
03-26 11:26 AM
see above
If China and India combined gets only 22K every year then all Visas will be wasted.
If China and India combined gets only 22K every year then all Visas will be wasted.
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godspeed
07-21 05:47 PM
Received by USCIS on 06/04/08
Approved on 7/14/2008
Card received on 7/18/2008
Got 2 yr renewal.
Btw - why are lot of members mentioning FP related information under EAD? I did my FP last Oct. Should I be expecting second FP as a result of EAD renewal application. I am missing some thing basic here. Any pointers?
FP is mainly for E-filing folks, paper filers need not take FP.
Approved on 7/14/2008
Card received on 7/18/2008
Got 2 yr renewal.
Btw - why are lot of members mentioning FP related information under EAD? I did my FP last Oct. Should I be expecting second FP as a result of EAD renewal application. I am missing some thing basic here. Any pointers?
FP is mainly for E-filing folks, paper filers need not take FP.
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Libra
07-06 10:38 PM
WOW!! I really feel good and proud to be a member of IV, many members(even seniors) should learn from you guys, instead of critisizing whatever others do, come up with good ideas.
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tonyHK12
02-23 02:06 PM
Just came across this forum for Advocacy days today.
Donated $100
Receipt No: 0508-4391-5011-8443
Organizers, do you know how many people have confirmed attendance?
Thanks
Thanks, I'll defer that question to StarSun. She had previously mentioned she needs members from these states - IN, KY, TN, KS, NE, NV, AZ, NM, AR, OK
Donated $100
Receipt No: 0508-4391-5011-8443
Organizers, do you know how many people have confirmed attendance?
Thanks
Thanks, I'll defer that question to StarSun. She had previously mentioned she needs members from these states - IN, KY, TN, KS, NE, NV, AZ, NM, AR, OK
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Caliber
05-01 08:55 AM
thanks akred for refering INA. I went through it now
In I485 application "Part 2: App Type" Option b (derivative status for spouses and children)
is actually related to quota listed in INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] a - 2. (family quota)
and not to INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] b - * (employment quota).
IV Core. Can something be done to highlight this issue in your conversation with authorities ?
This is good idea. But Family GC's have a wait queue of 10-15 years. Only immediate family members of Citizens does not have queue.
But this is a good point to note when our Lobbyists discuss with USCIS.
In I485 application "Part 2: App Type" Option b (derivative status for spouses and children)
is actually related to quota listed in INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] a - 2. (family quota)
and not to INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] b - * (employment quota).
IV Core. Can something be done to highlight this issue in your conversation with authorities ?
This is good idea. But Family GC's have a wait queue of 10-15 years. Only immediate family members of Citizens does not have queue.
But this is a good point to note when our Lobbyists discuss with USCIS.
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niklshah
08-10 07:01 PM
All:
I received an email on 8-8 saying card production ordered and on 8-9 about the welcome kit.
My PD is April 2 2004 EB2 (US educated for the idiot who tried to divide us b/w US and non US educated)
As a token of appreciation - I have contributed $100 to IV just now.Receipt ID: 1467-8132-5592-9911. Request all of those who get GC this month to contribute some $ amount. Although I was not very active in the forums I have contributed at least $400 to this cause and I will do the same in the future. Please do not try to divide b/w EB3 EB2 US educated etc. which I am noticing lately.
WE REALLY NEED TO HELP OUR EB3 FRIENDS. PLEASE CONTRUBUTE ONCE IN AN YEAR ATLEAST. I HAVE NOTICED THE MOMENT THEY GET GC THEY FORGET THE PAST DIFFICULTIES AND MOVE ON WHICH IS FINE. BUT IF POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTE ONCE IN AN YEAR.
great spirit buddy keep it up and thanks
I received an email on 8-8 saying card production ordered and on 8-9 about the welcome kit.
My PD is April 2 2004 EB2 (US educated for the idiot who tried to divide us b/w US and non US educated)
As a token of appreciation - I have contributed $100 to IV just now.Receipt ID: 1467-8132-5592-9911. Request all of those who get GC this month to contribute some $ amount. Although I was not very active in the forums I have contributed at least $400 to this cause and I will do the same in the future. Please do not try to divide b/w EB3 EB2 US educated etc. which I am noticing lately.
WE REALLY NEED TO HELP OUR EB3 FRIENDS. PLEASE CONTRUBUTE ONCE IN AN YEAR ATLEAST. I HAVE NOTICED THE MOMENT THEY GET GC THEY FORGET THE PAST DIFFICULTIES AND MOVE ON WHICH IS FINE. BUT IF POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTE ONCE IN AN YEAR.
great spirit buddy keep it up and thanks
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abhijitp
11-21 03:07 PM
You are turning a blind eye to his family, while also asking him to spend time with his family. You ask him to spend what he can on his treatment, while his insurance cover may go away if he quits his job and return to fiji/india.
There is no easy answer here.
But if he had his GC, he could spend all the time with his family, use his insurance cover at the same time, and not worry about his family going out of status.
He COULD try to expedite the GC, while also exploring other options.
Sorry for splitting things apart, Mehul. My best wishes are with you.
There is no easy answer here.
But if he had his GC, he could spend all the time with his family, use his insurance cover at the same time, and not worry about his family going out of status.
He COULD try to expedite the GC, while also exploring other options.
Sorry for splitting things apart, Mehul. My best wishes are with you.
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txh1b
08-26 01:26 PM
Was your Employer (GC Sponsoring) in any kind of trouble in past?
No. It is a good company and are very careful with things. I have never been in consulting. One good thing they did unlike other companies is they anticipated career growth and filed GC for a higher position and I could gladly accept promotion in my career.
No. It is a good company and are very careful with things. I have never been in consulting. One good thing they did unlike other companies is they anticipated career growth and filed GC for a higher position and I could gladly accept promotion in my career.
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fetch_gc
10-10 03:52 PM
Hi guys,
it is very frustrating that most of the guys whi have filed between July 2nd -July 16 have been waiting either close to 90 or more than 90 days, just for the sake of the DAMN receipt notices.
I have been very patiently waiting for the past 84 days (as i filed mine on July16th) and I see that even folks who filed just during the Aug 10th period are also getting their notices and getting their FP done.
DAMN with USCIS sorting order, as those morons could not even implement a FIFO manner, if they had followed, we would have had our receipts long back.
Once again, HELL with these stupid receipting process.
Hope atleast some of you can understand the pain in the whole friggin process.
FETCH_GC
it is very frustrating that most of the guys whi have filed between July 2nd -July 16 have been waiting either close to 90 or more than 90 days, just for the sake of the DAMN receipt notices.
I have been very patiently waiting for the past 84 days (as i filed mine on July16th) and I see that even folks who filed just during the Aug 10th period are also getting their notices and getting their FP done.
DAMN with USCIS sorting order, as those morons could not even implement a FIFO manner, if they had followed, we would have had our receipts long back.
Once again, HELL with these stupid receipting process.
Hope atleast some of you can understand the pain in the whole friggin process.
FETCH_GC
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vkrishn
08-20 04:14 PM
I contacted my Attorney (Its company attorney) and he told me that he will make an enquiry with USCIS. Apparently he has a list of all the pedning cases who are current this month and he is planning to send the list to USCIS.
Lets see what i get next week. Week 3 done. Week 4 starts!
Lets see what i get next week. Week 3 done. Week 4 starts!
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GCStatus
09-17 02:43 PM
GCStatus, I think Prashanthg's point is a valid one but that in no way means that we should not sue USCIS for what all they have been doing all these years. This in fact will help us prepare our case even more stronger against USCIS. It is best we ourselves find all the gaps we might have while we proceed with this case instead of them coming onto the issue.
I would suggest everyone who ofcourse is in favor or in doubt to bring forward the issues they think we need to cover while we move on with this.
Pamposh.
Pamposh - Point is not we getting money, idea is getting it back from USCIS. Whoever paid it, USCIS got it. Moreover, money is not the only issue. There are quite a few as we listed before.
We are making great progress. Lets keep it going. Its ideal, we dont waste our energy on these.
I would suggest everyone who ofcourse is in favor or in doubt to bring forward the issues they think we need to cover while we move on with this.
Pamposh.
Pamposh - Point is not we getting money, idea is getting it back from USCIS. Whoever paid it, USCIS got it. Moreover, money is not the only issue. There are quite a few as we listed before.
We are making great progress. Lets keep it going. Its ideal, we dont waste our energy on these.
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02-02 04:45 PM
Blacks, Latinos and even us Indians have reservation in the US. We get reservations right from Kinder garden, thru college and job opportunities. Many Federal govt. contracts are reserved for minorities and women.
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GCStatus
09-16 04:35 PM
Dudes & Dudettes,
Hasnt the issue of processing order been beaten to death?
I understand the momentum here....not trying to rain on a parade or anything...but shouldnt we be a little practical. How long is litigation going to take? Wont only naive lawyers even take this up?
USCIS can always pull the security reason trump card here.
moreover, during the last quarter...in the effort to not waste visas, low hanging easy to approve cases with later priority dates have gotten approved. wudnt u rather have that than visas going waste?
We have been patient for a very long time....lets see how the dates move in the 1st 2 quarters of fiscal 09.
My personal suggestion....stop worrying aout GC...there are much bigger things in life to worry about. :)
Mr.Lord - Before making any comments read and understand the content first. I dont want to explain anything further
Hasnt the issue of processing order been beaten to death?
I understand the momentum here....not trying to rain on a parade or anything...but shouldnt we be a little practical. How long is litigation going to take? Wont only naive lawyers even take this up?
USCIS can always pull the security reason trump card here.
moreover, during the last quarter...in the effort to not waste visas, low hanging easy to approve cases with later priority dates have gotten approved. wudnt u rather have that than visas going waste?
We have been patient for a very long time....lets see how the dates move in the 1st 2 quarters of fiscal 09.
My personal suggestion....stop worrying aout GC...there are much bigger things in life to worry about. :)
Mr.Lord - Before making any comments read and understand the content first. I dont want to explain anything further
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here4gc
03-18 11:52 AM
I opened SR in Jan...in Feb they sent letter that security checks are pending..so I took INFOPASS after talking with attorney...went to INFOPASS and was rudely told that it could take a long time because Namecheck is pending..no idea how long it will take...i was like..if security check is pending do my FP and check everything...but no...they want to do name check..okay..then attorney said to wait 1 more month...he called last week to USCIS and they said...oh we responded on FEB..to the original SR..the response was..its still pending..hell..i know that already..what the hell are u doing about it ?? i thought they were supposed to work on an SR and get it out of the way in 60 days..now lawyer is asking to wait 1 more month because he is saying 60 days from Feb...GOSH..and i am waiting for 140 also...filed in July went to NSC-TSC blackhole..God knows what will happen...
anzerraja
07-19 07:11 PM
ThinkTwice , very valid points.
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
anil_temp
08-27 10:57 PM
Finally I got the receipt notice for I485, AP, EAD. When I checked online, it seems they already ordered the EAD card.
My app received NSC on July 2nd 9:01 AM, got transfered to TSC.
My app received NSC on July 2nd 9:01 AM, got transfered to TSC.
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